SunnySurya
08-07 10:45 AM
Its sad to see this policy is working. Divide on EB3/EB2 bases etc. We are fighting a common cause to eliminate employment based country quota system. I'm surprised that IV is allowing such threads to be posted. If it so, its a v sad day for IV.
Read your post again, we are already divided. Why would ROW candidate want to eleminate country quota and let you be in front of him...
Read your post again, we are already divided. Why would ROW candidate want to eleminate country quota and let you be in front of him...
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ItIsNotFunny
11-12 03:37 PM
This is a good news. Do we need to tell individuals who are affected to send email to that email address? Let plan asap.
I don't think thats a good idea. You collect all evidence and we represent at once.
Opinion?
I don't think thats a good idea. You collect all evidence and we represent at once.
Opinion?
whitecollarslave
03-26 06:47 PM
You still did not get it. Without evidence of discrimination it would be difficult to fight against... Forget this for a moment, in any law based battle you have to have a evidence. It is not that I do not want to fight or somebody do not want to fight. How could you make the base for fighting? This other guy, with his sheer luck (And with Capital One's stupidity) could get written evidence and so he has a valid base to fight against. And without evidence, whatever you write to whomsoever authirities, it would just be a blabbering. Even as one platform if IV decides to fight against this, IV team (Or lawyers whom we appoint) will ask the evidence first to make the case. Other thing, do not forget, what we could achieve in July 2007, the base was definately a first screw up from USCIS ( That is an evidence...). Once that screw up happened we could right away make it a reference and could make it a battle point.. Do you still understand or you do not want to understand?
I do understand that without evidence you can't fight the conventional way or file a law suit. It would be difficult, if not impossible. I am not debating that. I never said it would be easy. Even with evidence (in case of Capital One), one can argue if thats a good enough base for fighting and whether it will do any good if the case is won. Thats not the point.
What would you do if a recruiter or employer told you (verbal or writing) that it is their policy not to hire Indians? (I am just using India as an example).
Regardless of written evidence, I would be inclined to do something about it. I am not saying that I will file a law suit. I would probably not even want to work for such an employer. But I will not be speculating that oh, there must be some loophole that allows employers to have such a policy; because many of them are saying that, it must be legal. I will not assume that they can do this under "Hire and fire" authority. We just seem to have a little difference in opinion about that. We agree on pretty much everything else. Thats all. And frankly, its good to have an opposing perspective on things.
Now, if I hear from experts that my understanding of the discrimination laws is incorrect and that it is legal for an employer to say that they will not hire somebody with EAD, I'll just shut up. Until then, I will encourage people not to be quiet and to call the hotline, file a complaint, call the media, and pursue whatever means we have at our disposal to fight what we consider injustice and fight what we believe is discrimination as per the law.
I do understand that without evidence you can't fight the conventional way or file a law suit. It would be difficult, if not impossible. I am not debating that. I never said it would be easy. Even with evidence (in case of Capital One), one can argue if thats a good enough base for fighting and whether it will do any good if the case is won. Thats not the point.
What would you do if a recruiter or employer told you (verbal or writing) that it is their policy not to hire Indians? (I am just using India as an example).
Regardless of written evidence, I would be inclined to do something about it. I am not saying that I will file a law suit. I would probably not even want to work for such an employer. But I will not be speculating that oh, there must be some loophole that allows employers to have such a policy; because many of them are saying that, it must be legal. I will not assume that they can do this under "Hire and fire" authority. We just seem to have a little difference in opinion about that. We agree on pretty much everything else. Thats all. And frankly, its good to have an opposing perspective on things.
Now, if I hear from experts that my understanding of the discrimination laws is incorrect and that it is legal for an employer to say that they will not hire somebody with EAD, I'll just shut up. Until then, I will encourage people not to be quiet and to call the hotline, file a complaint, call the media, and pursue whatever means we have at our disposal to fight what we consider injustice and fight what we believe is discrimination as per the law.
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appas123
08-19 09:56 AM
:D
APPAS123: THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUGGESSTIONS, WE REALLY APPRICIATED.
I DO NOT KNOW WHAT WORKED OUT.
LAST MONTH I OPNED SR FOR ME AND MY WIFE.
THIS MONTH SEND EMAIL TO OMBUDSMAN.
SEND EMAIL TO NSCFOLLOWUP.
TWICE WENT TO INFOPASS.
CALLED SEVERAL TIMES CUSTOMER SERVICE.
PRIORITY DATE: DEC 15 2005
SERVICE CENTER: NSC
CATEGORY: EB2
JUST NOW GOT Card/ Document Production EMAILS.
Glad I could be of help. Please stick around and help others as well and if you don't mind, please donate as much as you can to IV. Enjoy your new found freedom :)
APPAS123: THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUGGESSTIONS, WE REALLY APPRICIATED.
I DO NOT KNOW WHAT WORKED OUT.
LAST MONTH I OPNED SR FOR ME AND MY WIFE.
THIS MONTH SEND EMAIL TO OMBUDSMAN.
SEND EMAIL TO NSCFOLLOWUP.
TWICE WENT TO INFOPASS.
CALLED SEVERAL TIMES CUSTOMER SERVICE.
PRIORITY DATE: DEC 15 2005
SERVICE CENTER: NSC
CATEGORY: EB2
JUST NOW GOT Card/ Document Production EMAILS.
Glad I could be of help. Please stick around and help others as well and if you don't mind, please donate as much as you can to IV. Enjoy your new found freedom :)
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glus
05-24 01:06 PM
I have a question regarding the I-693 Medical exam. it was mentioned that you will need to take a vaccine for MMR, Varicella, Tetanus and Hapatitis B. it was also mentioned that they will do a tb test and a blood test for HIV and syphilis. are these all the vaccinations and blood tests required or are there aother blood test required in addition to these??
please advise. Thanks
All you said is correct, except for you don't need Hepatitis B if you are over 16. No, there are no more tests involved, unless your tb is positive. If you tb is positive you need to do chestX-ray. I know that because I was just doing the tests for myself. Varicella must be taken twice 30 days apart. Same applies to MMR.
I hope this helps. If you go to a good doctor, he will give you a complete list of things that you need to do before coming on the medical exam.
G
please advise. Thanks
All you said is correct, except for you don't need Hepatitis B if you are over 16. No, there are no more tests involved, unless your tb is positive. If you tb is positive you need to do chestX-ray. I know that because I was just doing the tests for myself. Varicella must be taken twice 30 days apart. Same applies to MMR.
I hope this helps. If you go to a good doctor, he will give you a complete list of things that you need to do before coming on the medical exam.
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FUNTIMES
09-24 09:15 PM
I am in a unique situation. I had concurrently filed I-140 and 485(EAD and AP as well) on July 2nd. I received my 485 recripts and EAD Cards but no trace of my concurrently filed 140. 140 check also is not cached. All my applications (140 and 485 were sent in the same packet). Called USCIS and received the routine answer that 140 is not in the system yet and have to wait. Any one else in the same situation
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InTheMoment
08-20 11:49 PM
...how is USCIS involved in this other than adjudicating cases and providing statistics to DoS as far the EB3 allocation issue is concerned?
Why are you guys taking about USCIS's interpretation of the law ??? What have they to do with it ? :eek:
**** The interpration is done by the Visa Office of DoS. **** Should get in touch with them.
Why are you guys taking about USCIS's interpretation of the law ??? What have they to do with it ? :eek:
**** The interpration is done by the Visa Office of DoS. **** Should get in touch with them.
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kuhelica2000
11-25 04:36 PM
Well, whether a merchandise can be returned after using, depands on the nature of the merchandise and the level of customer service provided by the seller.
If you are buying a TV or a home theater, you don't know if it is functioning properly until you use it. And returning it within stipulated "return period" is not only legal but also ethical.
Some high-end sellers will even guarantee customer satisfaction by allowing a return any time, yes any time if the customer is not fully satisfied with their product. There is nothing unethical about this. That is why these high-end stores charge you a premium in the first place.
Not allowing return of merchandise reflects the low level of customer service we used to get back home. Obviously that level of service expectaion has been engrained in us so much that we believe returning used merchandise, even when the customer is not satisfied, is unethical.
Your option? Stay put! Keep paying your montly obligations! Or sell now if you want, and take the 20G hit.
Foreclosing when you are not in a financial stress in NOT an option. Get it?
Now that you have your option, go learn how to be a grown up!
And now that you also know returning used merchandise is fraud, what are you going to do about it? Are you going to change your ways?
If you are buying a TV or a home theater, you don't know if it is functioning properly until you use it. And returning it within stipulated "return period" is not only legal but also ethical.
Some high-end sellers will even guarantee customer satisfaction by allowing a return any time, yes any time if the customer is not fully satisfied with their product. There is nothing unethical about this. That is why these high-end stores charge you a premium in the first place.
Not allowing return of merchandise reflects the low level of customer service we used to get back home. Obviously that level of service expectaion has been engrained in us so much that we believe returning used merchandise, even when the customer is not satisfied, is unethical.
Your option? Stay put! Keep paying your montly obligations! Or sell now if you want, and take the 20G hit.
Foreclosing when you are not in a financial stress in NOT an option. Get it?
Now that you have your option, go learn how to be a grown up!
And now that you also know returning used merchandise is fraud, what are you going to do about it? Are you going to change your ways?
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stuck_here
02-08 04:11 AM
1-2 weeks if u r unlucky, 1-2 months if u r extremely unlucky, 2+ months if u r as unlucky as me !!
:mad:
On FEb 4th my wife and myself went for H1-B visa renewal interview at Chennai Consulate. Both visas got approved. My wife passport was returned with in 3 days. It seems they have found her petitition online. My passport stuck with consulate. I called consulate today, and they have asked me to call back next week end. She said they were not able to locate my petition online.
How long it can take? 1 week or 2 weeks or 1 month? Please provide your experiences for those passports took more than 3 days. I have seen max 1 month in the forum.
:mad:
On FEb 4th my wife and myself went for H1-B visa renewal interview at Chennai Consulate. Both visas got approved. My wife passport was returned with in 3 days. It seems they have found her petitition online. My passport stuck with consulate. I called consulate today, and they have asked me to call back next week end. She said they were not able to locate my petition online.
How long it can take? 1 week or 2 weeks or 1 month? Please provide your experiences for those passports took more than 3 days. I have seen max 1 month in the forum.
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10-13 04:26 PM
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jcrajput
09-26 02:59 PM
here is the sample letter...
Regarding: Inquiry/status for I-485 AOS application sent to USCIS, Nebraska Service Center on July 2nd 2007
[FedEx Tracking No. xxxx
Recd. by Mr. R.WILLIAMS
NSC At Jul 2, 2007 7:55 AM]
My Adjustment of status application [I-485,I-765 and I-131] based on EB2 category, was delivered to Department of Homeland Security, USCIS, Nebraska Service Center, Lincoln, NE on July 2nd 2007. It was received in the mailroom at 7.55am (reference : FedEx tracking number xxxx).
USCIS website says NSC are working with August 2007 received AOS applications. However, I haven't heard any sort of communication pertaining to my pending application with USCIS. USCIS Customer Service would not pull up my application information in the system yet. Seems like USCIS is either not following the First in First out (FIFO) process for sure or the figures are misleading.
Details as provided below:
First Name of Applicant: xxx
Last Name of Applicant: xxx
Date of Birth: xxxx
FedEx Tracking No: xxxx
I would greatly appreciate if your office can help me to track and process my AOS application delivered to NSC on July 2nd 2007. Please feel free to contact me at xxxx for any additional information.
Thanks and Best Regards,
Regarding: Inquiry/status for I-485 AOS application sent to USCIS, Nebraska Service Center on July 2nd 2007
[FedEx Tracking No. xxxx
Recd. by Mr. R.WILLIAMS
NSC At Jul 2, 2007 7:55 AM]
My Adjustment of status application [I-485,I-765 and I-131] based on EB2 category, was delivered to Department of Homeland Security, USCIS, Nebraska Service Center, Lincoln, NE on July 2nd 2007. It was received in the mailroom at 7.55am (reference : FedEx tracking number xxxx).
USCIS website says NSC are working with August 2007 received AOS applications. However, I haven't heard any sort of communication pertaining to my pending application with USCIS. USCIS Customer Service would not pull up my application information in the system yet. Seems like USCIS is either not following the First in First out (FIFO) process for sure or the figures are misleading.
Details as provided below:
First Name of Applicant: xxx
Last Name of Applicant: xxx
Date of Birth: xxxx
FedEx Tracking No: xxxx
I would greatly appreciate if your office can help me to track and process my AOS application delivered to NSC on July 2nd 2007. Please feel free to contact me at xxxx for any additional information.
Thanks and Best Regards,
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coolcat
05-16 05:03 PM
I was told I can't travel international after filling I-485.
I can travel international only after receive the receipt of I-1485.
Is this true?
I don't see an answer to vsoni's question. I don't know the answer either. Can someone answer vsoni's question and also mine, please?
Here is my question:
I'm currently on an H1 visa status. I'd be applying for 485, EAD, AP on June 1 (my PD becomes current then. :) ). Currently I don't have a H1B visa stamp in my passport. I'm planning to leave for India immediately after applying for 485, EAD and AP and apply for visa in India.
My question is if my H1B visa gets rejected, can I come to the US on AP (someone in the US will mail me the approved AP)?
I can travel international only after receive the receipt of I-1485.
Is this true?
I don't see an answer to vsoni's question. I don't know the answer either. Can someone answer vsoni's question and also mine, please?
Here is my question:
I'm currently on an H1 visa status. I'd be applying for 485, EAD, AP on June 1 (my PD becomes current then. :) ). Currently I don't have a H1B visa stamp in my passport. I'm planning to leave for India immediately after applying for 485, EAD and AP and apply for visa in India.
My question is if my H1B visa gets rejected, can I come to the US on AP (someone in the US will mail me the approved AP)?
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dtekkedil
07-09 06:32 PM
This message is posted on USCIS website.
Atleast the Director is now aware of the sufferings of GC filers.
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Message from USCIS Director Emilio Gonzalez
I understand that individuals are planning to send flowers to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) beginning on Tuesday, July 10. USCIS has made arrangements to forward those flowers to our injured service members recuperating at Walter Reed Army Medical Center and at Bethesda Naval Hospital.
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Is this for real???
Can you post a link here?
Atleast the Director is now aware of the sufferings of GC filers.
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Message from USCIS Director Emilio Gonzalez
I understand that individuals are planning to send flowers to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) beginning on Tuesday, July 10. USCIS has made arrangements to forward those flowers to our injured service members recuperating at Walter Reed Army Medical Center and at Bethesda Naval Hospital.
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Is this for real???
Can you post a link here?
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manand24
09-16 01:28 PM
My wife and I received the CPO e-mails today at 12:15PM.
1.) Priority Date --> 04/24/2006
2.) 485 Approved on --> 09/16/2010
3.) Pre-Adjucated Yes/No --> No Idea
4.) Info Pass Yes/No --> No
5.) USCIS Contact Yes/No --> No)
6) Service Request Yes/No --> Yes (opened SR on 09/10/10 citing "outside processingtime" and no updates on the case after initial filing) - No response for the SR.
7.) Contact Senator Yes/No --> NO
8.) Recent RFE Yes/No --> NO
9.) AC-21 (Employer change) NO
10.)Ported Case(EB3->EB2) Yes/No --> NO
11.) Service Center - NSC
Best wishes to you all waiting
Application Type: I485 , APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS
Your Case Status: Card/ Document Production
On September 16, 2010, we ordered production of your new card. Please allow 30 days for your card to be mailed to you. If we need something from you we will contact you. If you move before you receive the card, call customer service at 1-800-375-5283.
This step applies to applications that result in an applicant receiving a card (such as a "green card") or other document (such as a naturalization certificate, employment authorization document, travel document, or advance parole). Applications will be in this step from the time the order to produce the card/document is given until the card/document is produced and mailed to the applicant. You can expect to receive your card/document within 30 days of the approval of your application.
If you do not receive your document, please contact our National Customer Service Center at 1-800-375-5283.
If you have questions or concerns about your application or the case status results listed above, or if you have not received a decision from USCIS within the current processing time listed*, please contact USCIS Customer Service at (800) 375-5283.
1.) Priority Date --> 04/24/2006
2.) 485 Approved on --> 09/16/2010
3.) Pre-Adjucated Yes/No --> No Idea
4.) Info Pass Yes/No --> No
5.) USCIS Contact Yes/No --> No)
6) Service Request Yes/No --> Yes (opened SR on 09/10/10 citing "outside processingtime" and no updates on the case after initial filing) - No response for the SR.
7.) Contact Senator Yes/No --> NO
8.) Recent RFE Yes/No --> NO
9.) AC-21 (Employer change) NO
10.)Ported Case(EB3->EB2) Yes/No --> NO
11.) Service Center - NSC
Best wishes to you all waiting
Application Type: I485 , APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS
Your Case Status: Card/ Document Production
On September 16, 2010, we ordered production of your new card. Please allow 30 days for your card to be mailed to you. If we need something from you we will contact you. If you move before you receive the card, call customer service at 1-800-375-5283.
This step applies to applications that result in an applicant receiving a card (such as a "green card") or other document (such as a naturalization certificate, employment authorization document, travel document, or advance parole). Applications will be in this step from the time the order to produce the card/document is given until the card/document is produced and mailed to the applicant. You can expect to receive your card/document within 30 days of the approval of your application.
If you do not receive your document, please contact our National Customer Service Center at 1-800-375-5283.
If you have questions or concerns about your application or the case status results listed above, or if you have not received a decision from USCIS within the current processing time listed*, please contact USCIS Customer Service at (800) 375-5283.
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01-24 08:56 PM
Indians do not need a visa to go to Hong Kong also and these days Singapore for those in transit (upto 96 hrs).
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tapsemi
05-27 07:37 PM
My priority date is current now and my company has already filed for my I-140. I have have two questions:
1) My wife converted from H4 to H1b last year end and she has not gone out of the country to get any H1b stamp. Will this complicate things? Does she need to go out to get a valid H1b stamp? In case of any trouble, will it be easy for us it she converts back to H4 again?
2) I saw that I485 processing times are taking about 6 months at the CA service center. Hence, under the current conditions, what is a better choice go: for Consular processing or Adjustment of Status? Thanks. :confused:
1) My wife converted from H4 to H1b last year end and she has not gone out of the country to get any H1b stamp. Will this complicate things? Does she need to go out to get a valid H1b stamp? In case of any trouble, will it be easy for us it she converts back to H4 again?
2) I saw that I485 processing times are taking about 6 months at the CA service center. Hence, under the current conditions, what is a better choice go: for Consular processing or Adjustment of Status? Thanks. :confused:
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08-07 12:16 PM
All,
Lets do another flower campaign to wish get well soon to SunnySurya and Rooling_flood.
Get well soon Mamu...
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grupak
03-25 02:56 PM
Just talked to a recruiter from a software giant.
She specifically wanted to know if I was on EAD and if yes, unfortunately they cannot hire EADs during the fourth quarter (now) due to hiring budget limitations that are typical during the fourth quarter.
Q: Why does budget come in to picture here?
A: Because policy requires the legal dept to be consulted for visa holders and EADs which means additional hiring costs plus time.
But she said once the fourth quarter passes, EAD hiring is not a problem.
What the employers are doing seems illegal. Govt issues us this card for a lot of money, and now we can't use it for work?
She specifically wanted to know if I was on EAD and if yes, unfortunately they cannot hire EADs during the fourth quarter (now) due to hiring budget limitations that are typical during the fourth quarter.
Q: Why does budget come in to picture here?
A: Because policy requires the legal dept to be consulted for visa holders and EADs which means additional hiring costs plus time.
But she said once the fourth quarter passes, EAD hiring is not a problem.
What the employers are doing seems illegal. Govt issues us this card for a lot of money, and now we can't use it for work?
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ysnraju
06-20 11:51 PM
Yes!! You can work now it self. It is legal under some circumstances please see Murthy website with AC21 FAQ :http://www.murthy.com/news/UDac21qa.html
Question 2 : I lost my job before the 180-day period. Can I still use portability? TOP
Quite possibly, provided the I-485 remains in pending (unadjudicated) status for at least 180 days. It is the I-485 processing time that is important, not when the beneficiary changes positions. This is because the "green card" (GC) is based upon a future job offer. The person is not required to have worked for the GC-sponsoring employer prior to filing or obtaining the GC. Accordingly, it appears the AC21 law did not intend to change the prior law, which only requires a future job offer with respect to the GC sponsorship in employment-based cases. Please refer to the disclaimer at the end of this page, since, at the time of this writing, the regulations have not been published.
Question 3 : I never worked for my sponsoring employer. It was a future job offer. Can I use AC21 portability? TOP
Yes, under the same circumstances as Question 2.
Question 2 : I lost my job before the 180-day period. Can I still use portability? TOP
Quite possibly, provided the I-485 remains in pending (unadjudicated) status for at least 180 days. It is the I-485 processing time that is important, not when the beneficiary changes positions. This is because the "green card" (GC) is based upon a future job offer. The person is not required to have worked for the GC-sponsoring employer prior to filing or obtaining the GC. Accordingly, it appears the AC21 law did not intend to change the prior law, which only requires a future job offer with respect to the GC sponsorship in employment-based cases. Please refer to the disclaimer at the end of this page, since, at the time of this writing, the regulations have not been published.
Question 3 : I never worked for my sponsoring employer. It was a future job offer. Can I use AC21 portability? TOP
Yes, under the same circumstances as Question 2.
xyz2009
08-19 10:49 PM
Its a no brainer (enter on AP) and you definitely have to talk to attorney
Krithi: Can you please let me know how to go to Adv Parole side. Although we have had them but have never used them before. So I need to guide my wife towards this AP area.
So in order to show or use AP my wife has to go and line up in the visa queue OR she has to go to Permanent Resident/Citizens side and from there they will route to this AP check/processing area. Please advise.
Sorry with my fundamental questions but I have never used my APs till now.
Krithi kindly reply or anybody else who can help with my questions/clarification mentioned above kindly help me.
Thanks a lot
Best Regards,
Krithi: Can you please let me know how to go to Adv Parole side. Although we have had them but have never used them before. So I need to guide my wife towards this AP area.
So in order to show or use AP my wife has to go and line up in the visa queue OR she has to go to Permanent Resident/Citizens side and from there they will route to this AP check/processing area. Please advise.
Sorry with my fundamental questions but I have never used my APs till now.
Krithi kindly reply or anybody else who can help with my questions/clarification mentioned above kindly help me.
Thanks a lot
Best Regards,
doc_desi
02-11 12:02 AM
Hi Shweta:
First, don't panic :) I doubt there's anything we can do about it at this stage. I'm in exactly the same situation (interview at the Delhi consulate on the 22nd, response - administrative processing, and the consular officer had told me that I'd get it in a week).
According to my lawyer, our cases have been sent to Washington for security clearence. And based on the feedback she has been getting, it is taking about a month. The embassy cannot issue our visas till they hear back from Washington.
So I realize that it totally _SUX_ but there's nothing we can do about it. So just chill and wait..
s
bepositive,
in my case i got no slip..whenever i call consulate new delhi they say still under admin processing ?? my lawyer checked with DOS..DOS had sent approval on jan 25th..still under proc at embassy !!
NOT SURE WHY ?? this delay is ??
i maybe forgetting..but which consulate did you go to and if new delhi then what was the description(looks) of the VO ?
-shahuja
First, don't panic :) I doubt there's anything we can do about it at this stage. I'm in exactly the same situation (interview at the Delhi consulate on the 22nd, response - administrative processing, and the consular officer had told me that I'd get it in a week).
According to my lawyer, our cases have been sent to Washington for security clearence. And based on the feedback she has been getting, it is taking about a month. The embassy cannot issue our visas till they hear back from Washington.
So I realize that it totally _SUX_ but there's nothing we can do about it. So just chill and wait..
s
bepositive,
in my case i got no slip..whenever i call consulate new delhi they say still under admin processing ?? my lawyer checked with DOS..DOS had sent approval on jan 25th..still under proc at embassy !!
NOT SURE WHY ?? this delay is ??
i maybe forgetting..but which consulate did you go to and if new delhi then what was the description(looks) of the VO ?
-shahuja
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